The Suckling Issue Again

Here we will show what Islam is not and how it is refuted by the Quranic Message.
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Dr. Shabbir
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The Suckling Issue Again

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Mullahs maintained that the grown-up man only needs to drink the milk squeezed out of the woman's breast to become a MAHRAM. And how about dry breasts?

Dear brothers and sisters,

Let not the Mullahs deceive anyone. Squeezing milk out of her breasts for a strange man to drink is OK according to this moron as she said.

But her idol Maududi and his idol Criminal Bukhari go far beyond. Let her call
it cut and paste. But this is my honest research printed in my extremely popular
books and no Mullah has had the courage to honestly refute it. Anyone but the
blind can open and see the references.

First, get your answer from "Imam" Abu Yousuf.

What if a woman has no milk? "Imam" Abu Yousuf said: Sucking at BOTH the dry
breasts of a woman will fulfill the Shari'ah law, provided it is on ten
different occasions. (Gharaib fil Tahqiq-il-Mazahib Wa Tafhimul Masaail, Vol 2
Pg 137).

Now more bull--- from Maududi again:

SUCKLING ON THE BREASTS OF A YOUNG WOMAN: This is a horrible Hadithi joke.
Bukhari writes that Hazrat Ayesha’s goat had eaten up the date-leaf upon which
were written two Quranic verses. This is supposed to have happened when there was chaos at home because of the demise of the Prophet (S). One of those verses
was about stoning the ‘Sheikh and Sheikhah’a, a mature man and woman, committing
adultery. The other verse was about the grown-up men suckling on a young woman.

The goat-eaten, non-existent, “Ten Sucklings Verse” (the so-called Ayah
Ridha'at) is a horrible joke. The 'Imams' of Hadith report that Hazrat Ayesha
advised women of an 'easy' way to admit unrelated men into their privacy. Let
any grown up unrelated man suckle on the woman's breasts on ten different
occasions and lo and behold! He becomes a Mahram (one who is a family member and
can intrude into their privacy from then on). (Hadith 1934 Ibn Majah, 30:12
Malik’s Muwatta and Bukhari about the ‘criminal’ goat). About foster mothers,
the Quran clearly states:

4:23 The following women are prohibited for you in marriage: Your ...
foster-mothers who have ever nursed you, foster-sisters ...

The verse is obviously talking of babies and their foster mothers. Children
become related to one another in a solemn bond of brotherhood or sisterhood by nursing
from a common woman. The woman attains the honor of becoming their mother.
According to Maududi, Imam Hanbal says that suckling on a woman on three
occasions will confer the bond of suckling relationship on a child. But Imam
Shafi’i differs saying that it has to be five times. However, to an
aesthetically sound mind the principle is quite clear. But our jurists and
Mullahs get entangled in silly disputes.

On Pg 338 Vol 1 of his Tafhim, Mullah Maududi writes that although the jurists
differ on the age of suckling, even if a grown up man suckles on a woman, he
will enter into the bond of suckling! But the foolishness does not end here.
Maududi asserts in Tarjumanul Quran that the amount of milk actually swallowed
is of terrible importance. How much milk? Maududi frantically seeks help from
Imam Abu Hanifa and Imam Malik and comes up with a solution. Well, the amount is
that which will be enough to break the fast of a fasting person. However, the three Mullahs fail to elaborate how much milk will be
sufficient to break a fast. The Mullahs have neither the sense, nor the courage
to reject Ahadith that insult human intelligence, such as this one of a grown up
man suckling on a strange woman! Would the Mullahs advise this nonsense to their
wives, sisters and daughters? Who knows if Maududi did that?

Ayatullah As-Syed Murtaza Hussain Nasir Ferozabadi, the compiler of “Life Events
of Seven Sahaba” happily accepts the great insult but shows his ‘sensitivity’ by
expressing his dismay on the judgment of Hazrat Ayesha and Hanbal for neglecting
an important issue: “The man would have to handle the female breasts.” Maududi
is least concerned about it.

-SA
Wassalam,
SA
Mahmood Qasmi
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Salam dear Uncle,
This is what we see from within. I could only imagine till a few months back how people whether muslim or non-muslim for the first time would react when they read such made-up tradition.

In the 70's Patricia Crone set out to prove that Islamic history as well as the Quran are 9th Century CE inventions to put a religion together...

But now, those bent on proving Islam is a religion, and a false/primitive/barbaric/evil one at that, have found the jackpot in Hadith and are extremely happy with it.

Observe how the person uses the tradition of suckling against Islam:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh3bmPGfKME

Sites such as Prophet of Doom and Investigate Islam now use what traditionalists revere most against them and to this I believe, the traditionalists have no answer, simply because there is none, other than to say that these traditions are false and fabricated.
Mahmood Qasmi
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Dr. Shabbir
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The Suckling Issue Again

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Dear beta Qasmi,

Don't these 'Imams' and their mental progeny put us to shame?

Your youtube did not open. Aisha will try when she comes back from school.

Thanks!
Wassalam,
SA
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