Respected Dr. Badar Kanwar, M.D. who also is MS in hearing impairment and the Science of Acoustics has read the thread.
He called and increased my knowledge about Sonic Crystal by saying that scientists are working on using the same technology, of course on a large scale, for earthquake prevention.
Another interesting observation from him about possible implosion.
36:51 And when the Trumpet is blown, out of their disintegrated states to their Lord they will run. [Ajdaath = Bodily remains = Physical remains in the graves or scattered anywhere = Disintegrated states]
If a blast of sound can disperse particles, it may also gather them together by causing implosion.
Dr. Kanwar might post more info in a day or two.
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Shabbir Bhai, thanks for kind words and all encouragements. Here is part of thoughts and research on the topic. To keep it short I will post in few parts.
What is sound? Below are few simple definitions
•Sound is made up of molecules of air which move. When they push together they form sound waves.
www.ueet.nasa.gov/StudentSite/vocabulary.html
•Fluctuating waves of pressure that travel through a physical medium such as air. An acoustic wave consists of a traveling vibration of alternate compressions and rarefactions, whereby sound is transmitted through air or other media.
www.sfxaudio.com/AudioSchool/glossary.asp
•Vibrations of molecules transferred in ''waves'' through either a gas, liquid or solid; in order for sound to exist, molecules must be present and the molecules must have a source which starts them to vibrate - passing their vibrations outward and in successive waves. In a vacuum (like in outer space), sound cannot be produced nor transferred.
www.mmem.spschools.org/grade3science/3.sound/SoundGlossary.html
•Sound is vibration, as perceived by the sense of hearing.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_waves
Above definitions make it amply clear that sound consists of fluctuating waves of pressure. The waves that can be perceived by human ears are called Acoustic waves. However, sound waves are not limited to what could be perceived by human ears only. Human ear can only perceive from frequencies of15-20 Hz to 18-20000 Hz. Human speech mostly falls between 500-2500 Hz. Hence, by definition Sound waves would qualify for being as the Maliaka.
We are already harnessing this power of universe partly.
Echo
Not all sound that hits matter is absorbed. Some of it is reflected. That means sound bounces off the solid matter the way a tennis ball bounces off a wall. Sound reflected back to its source is an echo.
The reflection property is utilized under the name of Sonar
Geologists use their knowledge of rocks to help them locate oil reservoirs.
Earthquakes can be tracked and their waves understood once the geologist understands how the earthquake waves travel through different kinds of rocks and magma.
Furthermore, it is used for
• Ocean exploration
• Earthquake vibrations and waves
• Marine mammals and bats use sonar location
• The military uses sonar in submarines and in planes
Ultrasound waves are used in Medicine as diagnostic tools as well as for therapies, just to mention few uses broadly speaking.
Sound has two main properties, Intensity and Frequency. Both of these can be taken advantage of. Ultrasounds in medicine are example of its frequency advantage.
At higher intensity levels sound can produce two phenomenons i.e., Explosion and Implosion.
From Wikipedia an Implosion is
Implosion is a process in which objects are destroyed by collapsing in on themselves. The opposite of explosion, implosion concentrates matter and energy. An example of implosion is a submarine being crushed from the outside by the hydrostatic pressure of the surrounding water.
An explosion is a sudden increase in volume and release of energy in an extreme manner, usually with the generation of high temperatures and the release of gases.
Now with above back ground, so far we only know very little use of sound waves. One big menace for humans has been Earthquakes, basically sound wave of high intensity traveling in earth’s crust. One way of controlling them would be the concept of sonic crystals. This is just a further advancement of human knowledge in field of sound.
Here are parts of an excerpt from Dr. Karl’s talk on ABC on this topic
"You may have heard of the strange acoustic properties of the Whispering Gallery in St. Paul's Cathedral in London - where a whisper can be heard 42 metres away on the other side of the Gallery. But you might not have heard of the Mayan Pyramid of Kukulkan at Chichén Itzá, in the jungles of the Yucután Peninsula in Mexico. If you stand at the foot of any of the stairways that climb the outer walls, and clap your hands, you won't hear an echo of your clap - you'll hear a chirp. It sounds like the chirp of the sacred quetzal bird, which is the spirit of the Maya incarnated in Quetzalcóatl, the plumed serpent god. How could a clap get turned into a chirp? - through strange acoustic physics, which we are only today rediscovering after 900 years.
The rediscovery began back in the 1980s, with tiny devices called "photonic crystals". A typical photonic crystal is just some silica drilled with a repeating grid of holes. If you make the distance between the holes roughly the same as the wavelength of light, when you shine that color of light onto the photonic crystal, the light interferes with itself and cancels itself out. Shine light in - you get blackness. A photonics scientist, Francisco Meseguer, happened to have a cuppa and a chat with an acoustics scientist, Jaime Llinares from the Polytechnic University of Valencia. They suddenly realized that what worked with light might work with sound - if you scaled everything up to match the much bigger wavelengths of sound.
Now this work is still at a very early stage, but it seems that we now have an alternative to the rather ugly concrete paneling lining many highways. And you can do some clever tricks so that gaps of a certain size can kill many different frequencies at the same time. But other people are interested as well. The military are interested in coating submarines with sonic crystals that would absorb the sonar from sub hunters. They're also interested in filtering out the frequencies from heavy machinery in submarines - such as the motors and pumps. This would make the sub harder to find and you could even use the concept of sonic crystals against earthquakes. After all, the energy of the earthquake gets carried by a seismic wave - and a seismic wave is just another kind of sound wave. So if you drilled a whole bunch of holes into the ground around a city or building, you could absorb all the incoming seismic
waves.
OK, now there are a few theoretical and engineering problems to overcome here. Francisco and a few fellow scientists went to a quarry and drilled two different types of repeating holes into a thick bed of marble. One grid had the holes in a triangle shape, while the other grid used a honeycomb shape. The holes were each about 6 cm across, 160 cm deep, and about 14 cm from the next hole. Then they dropped a heavy steel ball onto the bed of the quarry, and measured the seismic waves. Each grid of holes significantly reduced the seismic energy.
And that may help explain the strange acoustic properties of St. Paul's Cathedral and the Mayan Pyramid - which are, after all, very holy places...
More later as it relates to Quran.
Badar Kanwar
What is sound? Below are few simple definitions
•Sound is made up of molecules of air which move. When they push together they form sound waves.
www.ueet.nasa.gov/StudentSite/vocabulary.html
•Fluctuating waves of pressure that travel through a physical medium such as air. An acoustic wave consists of a traveling vibration of alternate compressions and rarefactions, whereby sound is transmitted through air or other media.
www.sfxaudio.com/AudioSchool/glossary.asp
•Vibrations of molecules transferred in ''waves'' through either a gas, liquid or solid; in order for sound to exist, molecules must be present and the molecules must have a source which starts them to vibrate - passing their vibrations outward and in successive waves. In a vacuum (like in outer space), sound cannot be produced nor transferred.
www.mmem.spschools.org/grade3science/3.sound/SoundGlossary.html
•Sound is vibration, as perceived by the sense of hearing.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_waves
Above definitions make it amply clear that sound consists of fluctuating waves of pressure. The waves that can be perceived by human ears are called Acoustic waves. However, sound waves are not limited to what could be perceived by human ears only. Human ear can only perceive from frequencies of15-20 Hz to 18-20000 Hz. Human speech mostly falls between 500-2500 Hz. Hence, by definition Sound waves would qualify for being as the Maliaka.
We are already harnessing this power of universe partly.
Echo
Not all sound that hits matter is absorbed. Some of it is reflected. That means sound bounces off the solid matter the way a tennis ball bounces off a wall. Sound reflected back to its source is an echo.
The reflection property is utilized under the name of Sonar
Geologists use their knowledge of rocks to help them locate oil reservoirs.
Earthquakes can be tracked and their waves understood once the geologist understands how the earthquake waves travel through different kinds of rocks and magma.
Furthermore, it is used for
• Ocean exploration
• Earthquake vibrations and waves
• Marine mammals and bats use sonar location
• The military uses sonar in submarines and in planes
Ultrasound waves are used in Medicine as diagnostic tools as well as for therapies, just to mention few uses broadly speaking.
Sound has two main properties, Intensity and Frequency. Both of these can be taken advantage of. Ultrasounds in medicine are example of its frequency advantage.
At higher intensity levels sound can produce two phenomenons i.e., Explosion and Implosion.
From Wikipedia an Implosion is
Implosion is a process in which objects are destroyed by collapsing in on themselves. The opposite of explosion, implosion concentrates matter and energy. An example of implosion is a submarine being crushed from the outside by the hydrostatic pressure of the surrounding water.
An explosion is a sudden increase in volume and release of energy in an extreme manner, usually with the generation of high temperatures and the release of gases.
Now with above back ground, so far we only know very little use of sound waves. One big menace for humans has been Earthquakes, basically sound wave of high intensity traveling in earth’s crust. One way of controlling them would be the concept of sonic crystals. This is just a further advancement of human knowledge in field of sound.
Here are parts of an excerpt from Dr. Karl’s talk on ABC on this topic
"You may have heard of the strange acoustic properties of the Whispering Gallery in St. Paul's Cathedral in London - where a whisper can be heard 42 metres away on the other side of the Gallery. But you might not have heard of the Mayan Pyramid of Kukulkan at Chichén Itzá, in the jungles of the Yucután Peninsula in Mexico. If you stand at the foot of any of the stairways that climb the outer walls, and clap your hands, you won't hear an echo of your clap - you'll hear a chirp. It sounds like the chirp of the sacred quetzal bird, which is the spirit of the Maya incarnated in Quetzalcóatl, the plumed serpent god. How could a clap get turned into a chirp? - through strange acoustic physics, which we are only today rediscovering after 900 years.
The rediscovery began back in the 1980s, with tiny devices called "photonic crystals". A typical photonic crystal is just some silica drilled with a repeating grid of holes. If you make the distance between the holes roughly the same as the wavelength of light, when you shine that color of light onto the photonic crystal, the light interferes with itself and cancels itself out. Shine light in - you get blackness. A photonics scientist, Francisco Meseguer, happened to have a cuppa and a chat with an acoustics scientist, Jaime Llinares from the Polytechnic University of Valencia. They suddenly realized that what worked with light might work with sound - if you scaled everything up to match the much bigger wavelengths of sound.
Now this work is still at a very early stage, but it seems that we now have an alternative to the rather ugly concrete paneling lining many highways. And you can do some clever tricks so that gaps of a certain size can kill many different frequencies at the same time. But other people are interested as well. The military are interested in coating submarines with sonic crystals that would absorb the sonar from sub hunters. They're also interested in filtering out the frequencies from heavy machinery in submarines - such as the motors and pumps. This would make the sub harder to find and you could even use the concept of sonic crystals against earthquakes. After all, the energy of the earthquake gets carried by a seismic wave - and a seismic wave is just another kind of sound wave. So if you drilled a whole bunch of holes into the ground around a city or building, you could absorb all the incoming seismic
waves.
OK, now there are a few theoretical and engineering problems to overcome here. Francisco and a few fellow scientists went to a quarry and drilled two different types of repeating holes into a thick bed of marble. One grid had the holes in a triangle shape, while the other grid used a honeycomb shape. The holes were each about 6 cm across, 160 cm deep, and about 14 cm from the next hole. Then they dropped a heavy steel ball onto the bed of the quarry, and measured the seismic waves. Each grid of holes significantly reduced the seismic energy.
And that may help explain the strange acoustic properties of St. Paul's Cathedral and the Mayan Pyramid - which are, after all, very holy places...
More later as it relates to Quran.
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If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called scientific inquiry. Many thanks for sharing your researched enlightenment with us. For beliefs that are inconsistent with laws of nature there are various talismanic sites.
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What does Quran tell us about use of sound energy? One of the few uses that it shows are the ultimate uses of sound energy as in Ayas below.
Word Saur is used total of 10 times in Quran. Usually it is translated as trumpet but root has following meanings according to Lane's Lexicon
Saur=he made it=he demolished it=threw it down, or pulled it to the ground=he formed, finished, firgure and shaped=a horn=trumpet
So this word has lot more concepts in it than just trumpet, now following Aya
6:73
And He it is Who has created the heavens and the earth with a definite Purpose. Whenever He says “Be!†it is. His Word is the Truth. And His will be the Dominion on the Day the Trumpet (of Resurrection) is blown. Knower of the Invisible and the Visible, for, He is the Wise, the Aware. [3]
Right after word Saur word Alimul Ghaib is used, see how beautiful, sound is invisable so are all events of that day.
وهو الذي خلق السماوات والارض بالØÙ‚ ويوم يقول كن Ùيكون قوله الØÙ‚ وله الملك يوم ينÙØ® ÙÙŠ الصور عالم الغيب والشهادة وهو الØكيم الخبير
Here, in aya below, it says once it will sound and everything will be sensless=disintegrated=explosion. Then it will sound again=they will be standing and looking=intergration=implosion. All due to sound waves. Please note power of sound waves
39:68
When the Trumpet is sounded, all who are in the heavens and all who are on earth will fall senseless except those whom God wills. And then it will sound again, and behold, they will be standing and looking on. [27]
ونÙØ® ÙÙŠ الصور Ùصعق من ÙÙŠ السماوات ومن ÙÙŠ الارض الا من شاء الله ثم Ù†ÙØ® Ùيه اخري Ùاذا هم قيام ينظرون
This Aya further confirms sound energy from a trumpet being capable of=implosion= could put disintergrated humans together.
36:51
And when the Trumpet is blown, behold, out of their disintegrated states unto their Lord they will run. [Ajdaath = Bodily remains = Physical remains in the graves or scattered anywhere = Disintegrated states
ونÙØ® ÙÙŠ الصور Ùاذا هم من الاجداث الي ربهم ينسلون
Badar Kanwar
Word Saur is used total of 10 times in Quran. Usually it is translated as trumpet but root has following meanings according to Lane's Lexicon
Saur=he made it=he demolished it=threw it down, or pulled it to the ground=he formed, finished, firgure and shaped=a horn=trumpet
So this word has lot more concepts in it than just trumpet, now following Aya
6:73
And He it is Who has created the heavens and the earth with a definite Purpose. Whenever He says “Be!†it is. His Word is the Truth. And His will be the Dominion on the Day the Trumpet (of Resurrection) is blown. Knower of the Invisible and the Visible, for, He is the Wise, the Aware. [3]
Right after word Saur word Alimul Ghaib is used, see how beautiful, sound is invisable so are all events of that day.
وهو الذي خلق السماوات والارض بالØÙ‚ ويوم يقول كن Ùيكون قوله الØÙ‚ وله الملك يوم ينÙØ® ÙÙŠ الصور عالم الغيب والشهادة وهو الØكيم الخبير
Here, in aya below, it says once it will sound and everything will be sensless=disintegrated=explosion. Then it will sound again=they will be standing and looking=intergration=implosion. All due to sound waves. Please note power of sound waves
39:68
When the Trumpet is sounded, all who are in the heavens and all who are on earth will fall senseless except those whom God wills. And then it will sound again, and behold, they will be standing and looking on. [27]
ونÙØ® ÙÙŠ الصور Ùصعق من ÙÙŠ السماوات ومن ÙÙŠ الارض الا من شاء الله ثم Ù†ÙØ® Ùيه اخري Ùاذا هم قيام ينظرون
This Aya further confirms sound energy from a trumpet being capable of=implosion= could put disintergrated humans together.
36:51
And when the Trumpet is blown, behold, out of their disintegrated states unto their Lord they will run. [Ajdaath = Bodily remains = Physical remains in the graves or scattered anywhere = Disintegrated states
ونÙØ® ÙÙŠ الصور Ùاذا هم من الاجداث الي ربهم ينسلون
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Salaam Aleikum,
Sound only works between molecules and only on a macro-molecule level. Anything beneath the sub-atomic level is not effected between sound as sound is a vibritation of molecules.
So with all respect, I must highly disagree with the above interpretation that sound will be used for the re-creation of the Universe.
But you can interpretate the verse as also talking about the present life, refering to the re-creation of the body through sound therapy, as the verse is certainly not limited to the Next Life alone. I will give 2 interpretations below.
The Quran clearly states that our creation in the new Universe is as the creation in this life, see:
22:5 O Mankind! If you are in doubt that humanity will one day stand at its feet, and that you will be resurrected back to life after death, consider the process of your own evolution. We have created you in stages: From dust, then from male and female gametes, then from a zygote, then from an embryo, shapely and first shapeless. We thus clearly explain things for you. The embryo and then the fetus stay in the womb until an appointed term according to Our Laws. Then We bring you forth as infants and carry you to maturity. While some of you die young, others live to the feeblest old age so that they know nothing after knowing much. (Resurgence of humanity can take place just as) you, O Prophet, see a dry barren land, but when We send down water on it, it vibrates with life and grows all kinds of beautiful plants.
This comparison is made with a definite purpose. We know through Quantum phyiscs that this Universe will implode and explode again into a new Bigbang. When the new Bigbang has occured, the Blueprint of the Universe that is inscribed into the fabric of the Quantum Field, the Energy Field that sustains this whole Universe, is activated and the creation will start over again.
But as the Quantum Field contains all information that is created in the previous Universe and that the Universe works through a process of Evolution, one important factor is different.
Evolution only preserves that within in a species that is good for the species itself. Thus any human which deeds were bad for the progress of Mankind will be kicked out of the process of creation through the laws of Evolution.
Thus this personality will not take part anymore in the process of Evolution and is in a state of Jahannam, which was the name of the old garbagedump in Jerusalem. Literally the person is dumped outside of the evolutionaire process.
All personalities that were benefitting the human species will be accepted and brought back into the Creation process. These personalities will be born again and will have access to the information in the Qunatum Field thus enabling them to have access to their knowledge and thoughts of their First Life.
These people are in a State of Jannah, Jannah means a Garden, and thus refers to growth, meaning development. The humans in the Next Life will have new abilities and because they have access to all the information of the First Life as contained in the Quantum Field, including the Scriptures, they will build up a society that will be amazing.
All personalities that wanted violence, war, greed and so on, are not present anymore in this new Life as they are kicked out of the Creation process, thus the new Earth will be a Heaven created by the new Mankind from which they will spread out and inhabitate the Universe.
Thus there are no limits for the New Mankind.
And thus also, there is no "Day of Resurrection" in the old sense, this mythological concept is based on myths of the old peoples of the world, mainly Christianity.
Yauwme in Classic Arabic refers to a Timeperiod no matter how long, and it was ALSO used for a 24-hour day.
I do not believe that the Quran ever really uses Yauwme as a 24-hour day, only as a word for a timeperiod or era. The Doctor also doesn't uses it as a 24-hour day, but I dislike using Day even with a capital letter as people confuse it to much with a 24-hour human day.
Thus mine interpretation of that verse is completely different:
6:73
And He it is Who has created the heavens and the earth through a process of steps with a definite Purpose. Whenever He says Kun/Be it is [written into the Blue print of the Universe].
(Khalaqa= creating something through a process that takes time. It does not mean instant creation.)
His Word is the Truth. And He is responsible for the Laws that control infuses, shapes and finishes the Era of.
(Malik= To control and rule a realm. Yauwme=Era=Timeperiod
Sur=to shape/form, fashion mark, picture, adorn, prepare, make)
Knower of the Invisible and the Visible, for, He is the Wise, the Aware. [3]
And it can also be understood as such when thinking for example about Sound therapy or any treatment:
6:73
And He it is Who has created the heavens and the earth through a process of steps with a definite Purpose. Whenever He says Kun/Be it is [written into the Blue print of the Universe].
(Khalaqa= creating something through a process that takes time. It does not mean instant creation.)
His Word is the Truth. And He is responsible for the Laws that control infuses and repairs process.
(Malik= To control and rule a realm. Yauwme=Era=Timeperiod
Sur=to shape/form, fashion mark, picture, adorn, prepare, make)
Knower of the Invisible and the Visible, for, He is the Wise, the Aware. [3]
Sound only works between molecules and only on a macro-molecule level. Anything beneath the sub-atomic level is not effected between sound as sound is a vibritation of molecules.
So with all respect, I must highly disagree with the above interpretation that sound will be used for the re-creation of the Universe.
But you can interpretate the verse as also talking about the present life, refering to the re-creation of the body through sound therapy, as the verse is certainly not limited to the Next Life alone. I will give 2 interpretations below.
The Quran clearly states that our creation in the new Universe is as the creation in this life, see:
22:5 O Mankind! If you are in doubt that humanity will one day stand at its feet, and that you will be resurrected back to life after death, consider the process of your own evolution. We have created you in stages: From dust, then from male and female gametes, then from a zygote, then from an embryo, shapely and first shapeless. We thus clearly explain things for you. The embryo and then the fetus stay in the womb until an appointed term according to Our Laws. Then We bring you forth as infants and carry you to maturity. While some of you die young, others live to the feeblest old age so that they know nothing after knowing much. (Resurgence of humanity can take place just as) you, O Prophet, see a dry barren land, but when We send down water on it, it vibrates with life and grows all kinds of beautiful plants.
This comparison is made with a definite purpose. We know through Quantum phyiscs that this Universe will implode and explode again into a new Bigbang. When the new Bigbang has occured, the Blueprint of the Universe that is inscribed into the fabric of the Quantum Field, the Energy Field that sustains this whole Universe, is activated and the creation will start over again.
But as the Quantum Field contains all information that is created in the previous Universe and that the Universe works through a process of Evolution, one important factor is different.
Evolution only preserves that within in a species that is good for the species itself. Thus any human which deeds were bad for the progress of Mankind will be kicked out of the process of creation through the laws of Evolution.
Thus this personality will not take part anymore in the process of Evolution and is in a state of Jahannam, which was the name of the old garbagedump in Jerusalem. Literally the person is dumped outside of the evolutionaire process.
All personalities that were benefitting the human species will be accepted and brought back into the Creation process. These personalities will be born again and will have access to the information in the Qunatum Field thus enabling them to have access to their knowledge and thoughts of their First Life.
These people are in a State of Jannah, Jannah means a Garden, and thus refers to growth, meaning development. The humans in the Next Life will have new abilities and because they have access to all the information of the First Life as contained in the Quantum Field, including the Scriptures, they will build up a society that will be amazing.
All personalities that wanted violence, war, greed and so on, are not present anymore in this new Life as they are kicked out of the Creation process, thus the new Earth will be a Heaven created by the new Mankind from which they will spread out and inhabitate the Universe.
Thus there are no limits for the New Mankind.
And thus also, there is no "Day of Resurrection" in the old sense, this mythological concept is based on myths of the old peoples of the world, mainly Christianity.
Yauwme in Classic Arabic refers to a Timeperiod no matter how long, and it was ALSO used for a 24-hour day.
I do not believe that the Quran ever really uses Yauwme as a 24-hour day, only as a word for a timeperiod or era. The Doctor also doesn't uses it as a 24-hour day, but I dislike using Day even with a capital letter as people confuse it to much with a 24-hour human day.
Thus mine interpretation of that verse is completely different:
6:73
And He it is Who has created the heavens and the earth through a process of steps with a definite Purpose. Whenever He says Kun/Be it is [written into the Blue print of the Universe].
(Khalaqa= creating something through a process that takes time. It does not mean instant creation.)
His Word is the Truth. And He is responsible for the Laws that control infuses, shapes and finishes the Era of
(Malik= To control and rule a realm. Yauwme=Era=Timeperiod
Sur=to shape/form, fashion mark, picture, adorn, prepare, make)
Knower of the Invisible and the Visible, for, He is the Wise, the Aware. [3]
And it can also be understood as such when thinking for example about Sound therapy or any treatment:
6:73
And He it is Who has created the heavens and the earth through a process of steps with a definite Purpose. Whenever He says Kun/Be it is [written into the Blue print of the Universe].
(Khalaqa= creating something through a process that takes time. It does not mean instant creation.)
His Word is the Truth. And He is responsible for the Laws that control infuses and repairs
(Malik= To control and rule a realm. Yauwme=Era=Timeperiod
Sur=to shape/form, fashion mark, picture, adorn, prepare, make)
Knower of the Invisible and the Visible, for, He is the Wise, the Aware. [3]
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Respect brother Arnold AA. You make very thought provoking points about 6:73. I, myself was not sure about translating Alsuar as trumpet in all places. But how about 39:68 & 36:51. Here, preceed word belowing does confir with Alsaur being translated as trumpet. Thanks as always.
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Salaam Dr.
We must look at the word Nafaka to understand the possibilities of the word.
The short definition of Nafakha is to blow with the mouth/to breath.
But when we look at the different ways it was used, we see a deeper meaning. It also meant to be filled with pride or that the sun suddenly rose at the beginning of the day.
It was also used for things that were swollen and thus it also meant the new moon.
It stood for arrogance, pride, boastfullness.
Or a young man full of life, or even the chief part of youth.
It was used for the part of the year when the earth grew new vegetation and herbs, fertile ground.
Or when suggestions are blown into people by the devil.
The word is very wide. Let's see how it is alos used in the Quran:
nafakha vb. (1)
perf. act. 15:29, 21:91, 32:9, 38:72, 66:12
impf. act. 3:49, 5:110
impv. 18:96
perf. pass. 18:99, 23:101, 36:51, 39:68, 39:68, 50:20, 69:13
impf. pass. 6:73, 20:102, 27:87, 78:18
nafkhah n.f. 69:13
15:29 And when I have perfected him in due proportion and breathed into him of My Energy, bow before him.†[Of My Energy = Free will. 76]
21:91 And remember her (Mary) who guarded her chastity (under very adverse circumstances). We breathed into her of Our Energy, and caused her, together with her son, to become a symbol of Our grace for all people.
32:9 (Then emergent evolution took place that distinguished humans
from the animal kingdom.) He shapes him in accordance with what he is meant to be, and breathes into him of His Energy. And thus (O Mankind)
He gives you the faculties of hearing, sight, reasoning and feelings. Yet, how seldom are you grateful by making the best use of your perceptual and conceptual aculties! [Af’idah = Minds = Intellect = Faculty of
reasoning including feelings. 17]
38:72 And when I have designed him, and breathed into him of My Energy (given him free will) then be submissive to him.â€
Well that gives us a very interresting observation!
In the Quran, Breathing/Nafakha is directly linked to the FIRST Creation of Man, and we are discussing also the verses that talk about the SECOND creation of Man.
This is very interresting as this means we do not need to interpretate the word as real Breathing, but as an expression of gradually transferring the Energy of Personality and Life into mankind.
We know through Evolutionaire Biology that it took about 4 million years to make Mankind ready for the final stage where mankind acquired the experience of the Nafs, the Self/Ego/I-amness.
So the verses we can approach again:
39:68 Wa-And nufikha-To Infuse/Transfer fee alssoori-The Finishing Process fasaAAiqaman-destructive calamity/death/become unconscious/strike like a lightning bolt fee-all that are in alssamawati-Space waman fee-and on al-ardiilla-The Earth man shaa Allahu-by God's Will that are expressed in the Laws of the Universe- thumma-Then nufikha-Infuses/Transfer again feehiokhra fa-itha hum qiyamun yanthuroona-they will stand/rise again and wait/look on.
Thus we get:
39:68 And the Finshing Process is infused/started all that are in Space and (thus also) on the Earth, will be Non-existent in one smite (in the time of a Ligntning-bolt the Universe will implode) as this is the Law of the Universe that displays God's Will and then for a second time (Life will be) infused and Mankind and all Life will rise again and will experience conciousness (Life will again emerge in the new Universe and through Evolution will conciousness/Nafs arise again)
Nafaka= To Infuse/Transfer/Start a process
Al-Sur= The Finishing/Demolishing/Repairing/Shaping/Making/Forming
Saiq= Death/Loose Consiousness/Be Non-Existent/Struck by a Flash/Lignthing-bolt
ManShaaAllah=God's Will as expressed in the Fabric of the Universe=God's Plan for the Creation
Qiyamun=To rise/Stand up/Emerge again
Yanthuroona= They be thought about/ They be watched/They be waited for/ They be wondered about = To experience Conciousness and explore Reality and wonder about it.
And:
36:51 Wanufikha fee alssoor-And when the Forming Process is iniated, behold, out of al-ajdathi-their disintegrated states they will yansiloona-seperate (into different stages) unto Rabb-the One that takes them from Phase to Phase untill their Completion.
36:51 And when the Forming (of the Second Phase of the Universe) has been iniated (the New Universe will be born again in a Bigbang which is like breathing Energy and Matter into the Universe), behold Mankind will be formed out of their disintegrated states (the Energy and Molecules that formed their first body will form the second one again) and they will rush (their evolution) and seperate (into different stages of Evolution) towards the One who guides these phases untill their completion.
Sources:
-Quantum Physics theories on the Evolution of the Universe
-Lane's Lexicon Arabic -English
We must look at the word Nafaka to understand the possibilities of the word.
The short definition of Nafakha is to blow with the mouth/to breath.
But when we look at the different ways it was used, we see a deeper meaning. It also meant to be filled with pride or that the sun suddenly rose at the beginning of the day.
It was also used for things that were swollen and thus it also meant the new moon.
It stood for arrogance, pride, boastfullness.
Or a young man full of life, or even the chief part of youth.
It was used for the part of the year when the earth grew new vegetation and herbs, fertile ground.
Or when suggestions are blown into people by the devil.
The word is very wide. Let's see how it is alos used in the Quran:
nafakha vb. (1)
perf. act. 15:29, 21:91, 32:9, 38:72, 66:12
impf. act. 3:49, 5:110
impv. 18:96
perf. pass. 18:99, 23:101, 36:51, 39:68, 39:68, 50:20, 69:13
impf. pass. 6:73, 20:102, 27:87, 78:18
nafkhah n.f. 69:13
15:29 And when I have perfected him in due proportion and breathed into him of My Energy, bow before him.†[Of My Energy = Free will. 76]
21:91 And remember her (Mary) who guarded her chastity (under very adverse circumstances). We breathed into her of Our Energy, and caused her, together with her son, to become a symbol of Our grace for all people.
32:9 (Then emergent evolution took place that distinguished humans
from the animal kingdom.) He shapes him in accordance with what he is meant to be, and breathes into him of His Energy. And thus (O Mankind)
He gives you the faculties of hearing, sight, reasoning and feelings. Yet, how seldom are you grateful by making the best use of your perceptual and conceptual aculties! [Af’idah = Minds = Intellect = Faculty of
reasoning including feelings. 17]
38:72 And when I have designed him, and breathed into him of My Energy (given him free will) then be submissive to him.â€
Well that gives us a very interresting observation!
In the Quran, Breathing/Nafakha is directly linked to the FIRST Creation of Man, and we are discussing also the verses that talk about the SECOND creation of Man.
This is very interresting as this means we do not need to interpretate the word as real Breathing, but as an expression of gradually transferring the Energy of Personality and Life into mankind.
We know through Evolutionaire Biology that it took about 4 million years to make Mankind ready for the final stage where mankind acquired the experience of the Nafs, the Self/Ego/I-amness.
So the verses we can approach again:
39:68 Wa-And nufikha-To Infuse/Transfer fee alssoori-The Finishing Process fasaAAiqaman-destructive calamity/death/become unconscious/strike like a lightning bolt fee-all that are in alssamawati-Space waman fee-and on al-ardiilla-The Earth man shaa Allahu-by God's Will that are expressed in the Laws of the Universe- thumma-Then nufikha-Infuses/Transfer again feehiokhra fa-itha hum qiyamun yanthuroona-they will stand/rise again and wait/look on.
Thus we get:
39:68 And the Finshing Process is infused/started all that are in Space and (thus also) on the Earth, will be Non-existent in one smite (in the time of a Ligntning-bolt the Universe will implode) as this is the Law of the Universe that displays God's Will and then for a second time (Life will be) infused and Mankind and all Life will rise again and will experience conciousness (Life will again emerge in the new Universe and through Evolution will conciousness/Nafs arise again)
Nafaka= To Infuse/Transfer/Start a process
Al-Sur= The Finishing/Demolishing/Repairing/Shaping/Making/Forming
Saiq= Death/Loose Consiousness/Be Non-Existent/Struck by a Flash/Lignthing-bolt
ManShaaAllah=God's Will as expressed in the Fabric of the Universe=God's Plan for the Creation
Qiyamun=To rise/Stand up/Emerge again
Yanthuroona= They be thought about/ They be watched/They be waited for/ They be wondered about = To experience Conciousness and explore Reality and wonder about it.
And:
36:51 Wanufikha fee alssoor-And when the Forming Process is iniated, behold, out of al-ajdathi-their disintegrated states they will yansiloona-seperate (into different stages) unto Rabb-the One that takes them from Phase to Phase untill their Completion.
36:51 And when the Forming (of the Second Phase of the Universe) has been iniated (the New Universe will be born again in a Bigbang which is like breathing Energy and Matter into the Universe), behold Mankind will be formed out of their disintegrated states (the Energy and Molecules that formed their first body will form the second one again) and they will rush (their evolution) and seperate (into different stages of Evolution) towards the One who guides these phases untill their completion.
Sources:
-Quantum Physics theories on the Evolution of the Universe
-Lane's Lexicon Arabic -English
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Mahmood Qasmi
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Excellent comment Arnold. I would also add that Saad-Wa-Raa has some very revealing derivations including MuSawwir (one who creates a form/picture), taSweer (creating of an image/portrait), taSawwur (imagination/visualization) and Soorah (shape/form conceived by the mind)...
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Thanks a lot brothers Arnold and Qasmi.
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